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Alien Abductions

Post originator: Crystal. Original Topic Thread
Contributors: Spooknz, Believer, Nabes, Misty, Darcy, Renegade, Vortex, Freedom, Lycasomae, Pusslil, Clodagh, Tarnz1965.

1 Millions of people from all over the world claim to have been abducted by Aliens. Their stories are similar. They are beamed aboard an Alien spacecraft, subjected to medical tests and procedures, and then safely returned. Many more abductions are not reported for fear of public ridicule and loss of friends.

Even under hypnosis and lie-detecting devices their stories have remained the same. Quite often a small metal tracking device has been removed from the bodies of abductees. Some abductees are intrigued with their alien implants and don't want them removed. Some people claim to have been frequently abducted.

What’s your opinion? 

How many of the old sci-fi flicks do you remember... lost in space... early star trek... come on... there’s plenty to remember.

Illustration 1: Examples of alien implants
Left: some implants removed by surgeons.

Some implants are very small like one removed from the toe of a woman who had a history of frequent abductions. It was only 6mm,and transmitted a signal on a radio frequency detector.

It is thought Alien implants are tracking devices and hold other functions such as altering psychologically and physiologically.


 The master plan, I wonder???

2 For many people this appears to be a real issue sometimes affecting individuals psychologically for life. We know from hypnotism that these people relate information describing such abductions.

While it might be difficult to understand why humans would be abducted. Aren't we lucky there are no known cases of HUMAN mutilation like there are claimed with animals. Or are there?

After all, if aliens are so advanced, would they not have more passive ways and means? It seems not. If not, then the intelligence gap between them and us may be very small.

3 The question is ....do they ABDUCT or do they BORROW?

4 I’ve heard of a theory that aliens in way help human evolution. (Not that I agree), but the theory I heard was "they" happened upon earth and added some of their own DNA to primitive man, there for speeding up evolution with the power of mind, (intellect). That would explain the abductions and tests.... kind of keeping an eye on their experiment? But who knows...I do believe that we are NOT the only living things out there. To think we are would seem so.... closed-minded.

5 Thinking we are alone is like thinking the earth is flat, or the Sun/Earth is the centre of the universe, or the Galaxy is the centre of the universe for that matter. It's simply not the case.

With regards Mars, it is interesting to note that support among scientists for the belief in the existence of life on Mars is growing.

In an informal survey conducted at the conference in which the European space agency reported it's findings, seventy five percent of the scientists in attendance reported to believe that life once existed on Mars, and twenty five percent reported a belief that life currently exists there.

1 As far as I can make out the alien master plan is thought to be that our planet in a far distant time will be populated by Human- Alien hybrids and their decedents (and Humans with implants). 
With such a history of violence and war with the human race, I could be wrong but it may not be a bad thing. 

5 Is it peace that these aliens desire, or could it be something too dreadful to even consider? 1 No one really knows unless your an Alien or Hybrid but I don't think they want to wipe us out. If they did then they would have done by now. Aliens have been visiting earth for along time. We will just have to wait and see. Time will tell. 

6 Channeling can provide some general concepts. Considering the 'way the world is at the moment', There is suggestion they would not be resized well. In the past they where resized as gods which did not work well ether. They can talk to people here and get information through,  like we can talk to spirit and use this method at the moment. They cant understand our violent nature (wanting to kill others). If we do destroy our planet they will come in the physical and take the survivors of to anther planet. They also look out for us in the universal sense and make sure no harm comes to us in that sense but what we do to our selves is up to us. 

1 (Suggestion:) They like us but can't understand how people can be so violent. You might remember readings something about the military shooting down two Alien spacecraft a while back. And they kept some Aliens captive. Now if the Aliens were aggressive they could have retaliated like humans, but they never did. 

7 A challenge: 

Many take 'alien abductions' very seriously. Some, having researched it intensively, don't believe in 'alien abductions'.

These people, in most situations, have never actually physically left their beds where they were laying when the abduction 'happened'. There is no doubt they truly believe this has actually happened to them.
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So, there are photographs of items being 'removed' from 'victims'.... For many, unless they  personally know beyond a shadow of doubt that that is an absolute fact of truth, it must be seriously in doubt as truth; and pretty much anything can be done with photography.

You may recall seeing documentaries on TV about the 'things done to cattle' in the USA, but according to the program I was watching, the locals themselves were quite sure these 'cattle things' were done by their own fellow Americans. 

As to abductees, having researched this, Some are firmly of the belief that when a person has an 'alien abduction' experience, it is their subconscious trying to give them a very urgent message. And that is, that someone in their own daily life is abusing them on a very deep psychological level and they need to do something about it.

The 'alien abduction' will likely repeat itself until they do get the message and do something about their abuse in their own daily life.

It can be a tricky thing to get hold of and to do something about, as the person abusing them is usually someone very close to them.

As to aliens themselves.... you might suspend judgement until if and when they land on your back lawn, and then hope like heck they drink lots of coffee or tea.

5 An extensive Harvard study on the subject of alien abduction, showed that the subjects had suffered an episode of sleep paralysis - a state of limbo between sleep and being awake, sometimes punctuated by hallucinations... these people are obviously sincere in their belief that they have been abducted by aliens.

If the reality is people are the cause of cattle mutilation, in their unhealthy, insane quests for recognition and fame, most of the world would be happy to see them caught.

1 Others prefer to keep an open mind on abductions. Is it possible abductees were somehow beamed up to the alien spacecraft from their bed.  If so, how do you explain how these people are physically still in their beds. 7 You can't come back to something you have never left? For those urgently in need of help [where alien abduction is the minds way of coping] the more they 'believe' they have been 'beamed up' the less likely they would be able to receive the message/help their subconscious is so urgently trying to send them.

By all accounts, the experience of 'abductees' is pretty horrific, but so is what is happening to them, without their conscious knowledge usually, in their daily lives. To be free of the abduction experience and [if the case is...] the actual abuse that is causing it would be a wonderful thing for them. 1 There has been an awful lot of people that have claimed to have been abducted, Millions! It would be very sad if they all were unfortunate victims of abuse. 5 It always pays to keep an open mind.

5 [In contrast...] It is very interesting to note abductees are rarely psychotic or mentally ill. Although their stories don't always check out, their minds do! It is a quandary that polarizes researchers at Harvard University.

When it comes to people who believe they have been abducted by aliens, the two camps agree on only one thing... These people are almost never psychotic.

5 Many such encounters are described as terrifying or humiliating, but others describe them as transformative or even pleasant [source 'Wikipedia'].

It is worth noting that many events reported during purported abductions often have parallels in anthropology, folklore and religion. Especially frequently correlate with certain imagery persistent in Shamanic experiences.

A Dr. Thomas Bullard (his essay is printed in Clark 1998) speaks of some alien abductees who described their experiences as profound and mystical, with a feeling of oneness with God or the universe.

Kevin Brumm, a former Yukon resdient of Ross River and Whitehorse, now living in Calgary, reported that he was abducted and treated kindly by aliens who invited him to the window of their spaceship to look far off into the distance at planet Earth. Later, after he had worked through the experience in his mind, he described it as a beautiful thing that opened his eyes. Initially though, he was very scared. He reported that he had been abducted from a roadside.

it would seem that most experiences are very very unpleasant... the subconscious mind is indeed very powerful! 7 Thing is, about 'dreams' or 'experiences'....if we didn't actually exist, we wouldn't be having them, therefore, they belong to the person experiencing them.

Being the property of the owner, stands to reason then that we must have a 'say' in what we experience. If we don't 'own' them, as in thinking they belong 'out there' someplace, we dis-empower the 'self', the part of us that is magnificent, creative and wonderful.

1 A small metal tracking device that transmits a signal, has often been discovered through x-rays, in the body of one that has been abducted, sometimes it can not be removed because of danger to the patient. How do they get there? The presence of the device is not known by abductee or their doctors prior to the x-ray.

7 The authenticity of those reports though demands questioning. Many would have to know, as in first hand experience knowledge, that those things were an absolute fact. The media make much of nothing sometimes, and the reverse at others, they cannot to be trusted as reliable informants of the facts.

You might have read a book called 'The Truth Twisters' ....good book, it tells some stories about how the media twist the facts to get people to believe what they want them to believe. There have been many stories by the media about many things, they leave us with more questions than answers most times. Propaganda can be a lethal thing, best to keep our own judgement.

5 One could follow the example of Shunk-Tokecha (Wolf). Even when he is surprised and runs for his own life, he will pause... to take one more look at you before he enters his final retreat. So you must take a second look at everything that you see.

1 [However...] It pays to keep an open mind. There are some that even doubt the existence of the divine, simply because they can not comprehend the existence of spirits, angels, or god. They feel there should be a logical explanation for every thing. 5 Why those who claim to be alien abductees are mocked and maligned by some is a good question. The popularity or rejection of an opinion or belief within society is no indicator of truth. 

5 Whatever alien abduction experiences are, they are "something".

8 The very substance of alien abductions is the thing that drives us to ridicule them so readily! [Just because it hasn't happened to 'you' doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others. The world seeks proof. Just how that proof will be finally acknowledged will change the future of humanity.]

 An account of 'abduction' by Crystal

1 The nearest I have came to being abducted was that I had a vivid dream or nightmare over 15 years ago that stuck in my mind all this time, that I was beamed aboard a UFO.

First I was beamed up, which the feeling of is best described as being pulled up in a fast lift, but without the lift. I remember lights. I found myself lying on a platform in a spacecraft. There were 'Greys' around me. I was unable to talk or move. 

They were communicating to each other. I could hear them but didn't understand what they were saying. They were not speaking as we do, it was sort of telepathy I think. 

They were examining me and were very interested in my skin and took small samples like a slight graze. They seemed very skilled in what they did. There was something strange about the soft lighting around me. It was light enough but hazy. 

the beings were small with thin arms and three fingers and with large eyes. They fitted all the discriptions of Greys.

They did not hurt me or abuse me in any way. For this I am grateful. However I felt very afraid and helpless, not knowing what was going to happen next. 

Then I don't know whether I blacked out or what, can't remember, but suddenly I was back unharmed. I did have some small grazes but they could have happened some other time. I will never Know.

10 Some abductees may have experienced serious abuse in their lives, possibly sexual in nature. There is not that much information. At ufoencounters.co.uk there is a discussion on the psychological interpretation of UFO Phenomenon (a), which states, “This has led some to speculate that “alien abductees” are really victims of sexual abuse during childhood. Because the abuse may have been perpetrated by a parent or trusted elder for whom the child felt deep affection, it may be difficult for the victim, now fully mature, to properly acknowledge it. Projecting the abuse onto an external imaginary entity, such as the aliens, may be a way of reconciling the reality of childhood abuse with a continuing affection for its real perpetrators.”

[Tarns1965 reports she] “used to have very bad nightmares and awoke once to find I was totally paralysed and could hear people yelling and banging on the window. Very scary! But it does have a component of some of the abduction experiences.”

Readers might be interested in Susan Clancy who has done some limited research into this phenomena. She claims that the alien abductions are "false" memories. In her article she does admit that the sample size of her study (b) was rather small but still worth a look at. More research needs to be done and it's interesting to look at all the angles. She also had a published article in the Journal of Abnormal Psychology(c).

10 We can find bits of the truth from different sources. Even the most secular of scientists agree there are some things that can't be explained and medical professionals from all walks of life will tell you that miracles do happen.

1 Crystal, 2 Spooknz, 3 Believer, 4 Nabes, 5 Misty, 6 Vortex, 7 Freedom, 8 Lycasomae, 9 Pusslil, 
10 Tarnz1965. [ ] Editors comments. 

References and suggested reading:

A small section is sourced from www.wikipedia.com (referenced within the above document).
9 An amazing website on the 'Greys' is http://www.echoesofenoch.com . 
(a) http://www.ufoencounters.co.uk/PsychologicalInterpretationsUFOPhenomenon.html 
(b) http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2002/10.31/09-clancy.html  
(c) http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~dsweb/pdfs/02_05_SAC_RJM_DLS_etal.pdf